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A raid on the Red Rose restaurant in Woodley discovered three illegal workers
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Border Agency raid uncovers illegal workers

January 14, 2013

A raid on an Indian restaurant discovered three illegal workers.

Officers from the UK Border Agency (UKBA) arrested the men after targeting Red Rose Indian Cuisine, in Woodley.

Another worker was detained following a raid on Moon's Grill takeaway, in Oxford Road, West Reading.

The UKBA visit to the Indian restaurant in Headley Road, on Thursday, January 10, found a 43-year-old man from India and two Bangladeshi men, aged 25 and 24, who had overstayed their visas.

Earlier in the day, officers had arrested a 29-year-old Pakistani man who was working in breach of his student visa in Moon's Grill.

All four men have been detained pending their removal from the UK and the businesses involved have been warned they could face fines of up to £10,000 per illegal worker unless they can prove they carried out the proper checks.

Paul Smith, head of Thames Valley enforcement for the UKBA, said: "Employers who take on illegal workers are both fuelling illegal immigrations and damaging the majority of legitimate businesses who play by the rules.

"That is why we have the power to hit those who break the law with heavy fines.

"This is the latest in a series of raids we've carried out in Berkshire and more are planned in the future. For those who are in the country illegally, there is no hiding place."

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Ignoring office locations for the moment, the chief difficulty with being in the EU is the comparative penny benefits our handed over pounds have derived, for the "privilege" of EU membership. We have gleefully become bereft of figures since joining that would easily have supported nationalised steel industry, heavy manufacturing industry, and railway system....but no, we now pay for that "privilege" to deal with those industries in countries previously considered "3rd-rate" in providing them (no offence to the countries, it was a different era) (also, note that Germany still has a robust steel industry, if leaner than back then).

We have also lost, as 'Ding indicated, certain freedoms to trade outside the bloc and in currently cheaper arenas, which would otherwise improve our balance of payments, our Moody rating, and grow coffers to pay off debts earlier/retain services.

Business drives business, and politicians and civil servants should stick to greasing potential new cogs and ensuring we don't deal with unfriendly nations, instead of trying to micro-manage the entire engine on paper, at the cost of the actual maintenance and performance tuning it needs.

By-the-by, 'Ding and I don't always see eye-to-eye, but he's no troll, and he'll debate happily for a smilie or two. I don't think MilkTeeth a troll either...he's just firm in his views and convinced he is right...as are we ALL a little more than sometimes :)

C8H10N4O2
16/01/2013 at 21:03

Oh so now you are just taking my posts and revering them? Obvious troll is really obvious. And angry that he’s been caught out. You haven’t even quoted one figure let alone any facts. If you have please point out where; you spectacularly failed to last time I asked.

Yes there probably would be an out vote. But that doesn’t mean it’s the best thing for the economy or the country. Our population is woefully under educated on the costs and benefits of the EU. Well actually it’s woefully over educated on the costs; most of which are hysterical exaggerations or myths as demonstrated by people in this very threads confusion between the EU and the European Court of Human Rights.

MilkTeeth
16/01/2013 at 16:17

How many facts and figures have you quoted? The answer is less than me as you will see if you actually bother to read anything instead of just bleating on about the EU.

Looking at the responses on here I think that the majority would probably regard you as the troll whose record is currently rather stuck.

If a referendum is announced then everyone will be given their opportunity to put their arguments forward. No doubt people like you won't put any valid argument forward and will just try to shout down everyone else.

Enjoy your trolling, I've had enough of dealing with you and your inability to read replies.

Dong-Ding, 3rd world slum
16/01/2013 at 16:09

Sorry dong-ding some trolling feathers ruffled there? I never said being in the EU was the sole reason. However I did say its one of the main ones. As often cited by companies that set up here.

How many facts or figures have you actually quoted here? None. You just bleat on about ideas that are totally unsupported by fact and make up parts of my argument that I didn't mention.

Your argument is baseless and made up on the fly bleating on about out dated ideas and time zones.

Obvious troll is obvious. Or maybe a fool and his foreign direct investment are easily parted, one of the two.

MilkTeeth
16/01/2013 at 15:24

The reasons were posted below, if you are incapable of reading them then that is your problem and not mine.

Looking at this discussion, it would appear that I know a lot more about why companies choose to set up in locations than you do. Your sole reason seems to be the EU with nothing else coming into consideration.

Dong-Ding, 3rd world slum
16/01/2013 at 15:12

Sorry what were the key reasons? The time zone? That’s why the east cost of Africa is a booming metropolis!

Your understanding of business is pretty scarily poor. Of course no one cares about access to the largest market on the plant – oh how crazy I am to think that’s a driver…

Either that or obvious troll is obvious.

MilkTeeth
16/01/2013 at 14:31

Again, access to the market is not the key reason either. Neither is the ability to lobby politicians. I have already told you what the key reasons are yet you still harp on about your beloved EU.

Contrary to what you think, the UK will not collapse if we left the EU. There will be no mass exodus either, especially with the EU wanting to tax everything that moves right now!

Dong-Ding, 3rd world slum
16/01/2013 at 12:59

It’s a reason. Maybe not the key drive, that being the access to the market of over 500 million. Of course if you want to trade in that market you need to obey its regulations, so you would also want to lobby the organisations who can affect those regulations.

MilkTeeth
16/01/2013 at 12:44

The ability to lobby the EU, again, is not a primary reason for a company setting up within the EU.

Dong-Ding, 3rd world slum
16/01/2013 at 12:15

Of course dong-ding. If we can offer access, without tariffs, to a market of over 500,000,000 and the ability to have input/lobby on their regulation and laws then people will be keen to invest and base themselves here. However if we can’t im sure that will be a big pull towards basing yourself in EU cities.

MilkTeeth
16/01/2013 at 10:35

MilkTeeth,

They would invest in countries not because they are part of the EU but because conditions in those countries provide benefits to the companies in question. The EU is not the be all and end all in a company's decision making in where to set up and establish offices.

Dong-Ding, 3rd world slum
16/01/2013 at 10:15

Dong-Ding - I would suggest with your Commonwealth idea you start here: http://www.economist.com/blogs/bagehot/2011/10/britain-and-eu-3

I really can't believe that you really think that membership of the EU isn't why people base themselves in the UK. It's literally staggering. Access to markets i the prime motivation - as you yourself just mentioned with your timezone fantasy. The EU is the biggest single market in the world.

Who in their right mind wouldn't invest in Germany, Poland or Sweden at the moment?

MilkTeeth
15/01/2013 at 17:44

Fact - 'Winterval' came from Birmingham City Council Marketing Dept as they thought a six week long festival would bring in tourists, and not from some PC-crazy dept in Europe.

Bemused, Reading
15/01/2013 at 17:36

Any evidence that the Commonwealth countries wouldn't be interested in a trading bloc? I think they would be interested, especially when countries have been applying to join the Commonwealth in recent years.

I think you also underestimate the time zone effect. One hour can make a huge difference in the business world. The UK is ideally located time wise to deal with both the western US states and the key markets in Asia.

Foreign investment dry up haha! Don't make me laugh! Companies don't decide where to invest based on whether you are part of something like the EU. If anything being part of the EU right now would mean less foreign investment due to the state of the Euro. Yet I don't see companies pulling out because of that, do you? If anything I see more investment into the UK because the pound is a far more stable currency than the Euro. Who in their right mind would invest in Spain, Greece or Italy at the moment?

Dong-Ding, 3rd world slum
15/01/2013 at 17:14

As I said that first point is utter tosh. These aren’t the same people.

I take you’re point in being near Heathrow as being a large reason lots of multinationals set up in the UK. However you’re suggestion about time-zones is laughable. An hour either way makes no odds. It’s also a little odd to base you’re European head office in the UK based on time zones when we aren’t on ECT. Anyway do you not think Heathrow is so big, in part, because if it being the EU’s hub? How much traffic would move to Charles De Gaul and or Brandenburg?

The Commonwealth countries aren’t interested in a Commonwealth trading block – they have their own local ones like the EU that they are all gearing up in.

I mean if you want to be bound by laws you have no say in and are happy to see our Foreign Direct Investment in the UK bottom out carry on ignoring all the other lesser facts by all means. But if you don’t I suggest you do a little more research on the EU instead of just believing out dates views about the Commonwealth (an organisation that’s leaking members) or British international clout.