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Recycling scheme changes welcomed by families

By Laura Herbert
November 28, 2012

Changes to the borough’s controversial waste and recycling scheme will see disgruntled families getting their wish for bigger blue bin bags.

The scheme was dogged with teething problems when it launched in April, prompting thousands of complaints about the strength and size of the bags.

But almost nine months later and after consultation with households Wokingham Borough Council has announced a raft of improvements which have been welcomed by families.

The more durable blue bags will have longer, loop handles, increased height and a wider top opening to fit a 90-litre dustbin and a new voucher scheme will be introduced for homeowners who don’t receive their allocated 80 bags in time.

Bigger blue bin bags

Millicent Reeves, Charvil, posted on getwokingham.co.uk: “Despite asking several times I’ve still got the ‘wrong’ bags – a bit flimsy and too small.

“But I manage and, grumbles aside, the scheme obviously works.

“A bag that could properly line my bin and strong enough to lift out once filled would be perfect.

“I have a full roll left – 80 bags is more than enough for my household of four.”

One man, who wished to remain anonymous, added: “The bags are of a poor quality and tear very easily.

“We put our rubbish in bags, which then go in the bin bags. I probably use more bags now than I did before the change and I am not happy that my household of four gets the same number of bags as a single resident.”

People who don’t receive their 80 bags by April 1, will receive vouchers which can be exchanged for bags at the libraries, and the town council and borough council offices.

But Mavdo, Wokingham commented: “People didn’t get their bags because those delivering them struggled with the massive task of delivering a few million of the things, some of which were incorrectly sized.

“If they fail again we have to go and pick them up.

“What a cop out. If they can deliver a voucher, why can’t they deliver the bags?”

Huge response to bin bag survey

Customer service changes could also be made if the proposals are approved by the council’s executive tomorrow night, meaning Veolia would only deal with bulky waste collections and Wokingham Direct would be the main point of contact.

The borough council’s reception would also be set up to deal with greater demand if needed.

A new home compost incentive scheme is also being considered, with up to 2,000 home composters available with a £10 discount.

Councillor Angus Ross, executive member for environment, said: “We recognise there were issues with the scheme when it was first introduced,but we have listened to people’s concerns and views, and have worked hard to come up with proposals to address these.

“The proposed changes will improve the quality of the service for residents, as well as make savings to their public purse.”

There has been a 22 per cent reduction in household waste collected, and a 24 per cent increase in kerbside recycling since the scheme launched.

If the plans are approved they will come into force from April 1.

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   I just watched while the binmen again took all waste in blue bags and black boxes and load them into the same side of the bin lorry. The recycling side was entirely empty and unused and everyone's cardboard, paper and plastic bottles were all piled up in amongst the blue bags in the lorry. What a massive bl**dy waste.

I spent a fair amount of time sorting all that recycling, ensuring all lids were off plastic bottles, all the plastic gone from the junk mail, washing the cans etc.

Why oh why do we bother?
mavdo, Wokingham
04/12/2012 at 17:10 Offensive or Inappropriate?
   Ponerana, they're the silent majority. Clearly there are 10,000 silent, happy, contented people in Wokingham who love this scheme, and just the three of us loony liberal lefties on here complaining. That seems to be the feeling of our civil SERVANTS.
Damiano_Tommassi, Wokingham
29/11/2012 at 11:41 Offensive or Inappropriate?
   There seems to be a lack of all these families welcoming these changes posting their congratulations on this blog. Perhaps there aren't any and the headline is a figment of the reporter's imagination.
PoneRana, Wokingham
29/11/2012 at 11:34 Offensive or Inappropriate?
   I need more blue bags, accourding to MP Dr lee I need to throw away my supply of breakfast Doughnuts.
Jeppo
28/11/2012 at 17:06 Offensive or Inappropriate?
   Yes but the council have not been completely straight with exactly what changes are being proposed. There are negative impacts to the residents that have not been disclosed as yet.
helairmike, Wokingham
28/11/2012 at 15:49 Offensive or Inappropriate?
   @Paul Daniels' reattached finger

I fully agree. If they dropped the price from £60 to £30 like our neighbours in Bracknell, then I would certainly sign up.
I Live Here!, Right Here!
28/11/2012 at 15:27 Offensive or Inappropriate?
   @parlovero - I fully agree that wheelie bins are a good idea, having had them previously and am missing them now! If you ask Wokingham Council you will be given a story that wheelie bins discourage recycling, so collecting bags is better. On the basis that they have no viable stats to back up this logic, the assumption has to be that they couldn't or wouldn't make the required investment in wheelie bins.

It is true that wheelie bins aren't appropriate for everyone, but this category is the overwhelming minority. Wheelie bins would be suitable for the vast majority of properties across the borough, but sadly, the council will never change things because they don't have the money, and even if they did, they wouldn't listen to a logical, well reasoned argument!
Smiffy, Reading
28/11/2012 at 15:00 Offensive or Inappropriate?
   @parlovero - Wheelie bins aren't suitable for all properties. For example, we live on a hill and our front door and back garden are 6 feet above road level. The only place to store the bins and put them out each week would be either in the garage or on the drive but then I wouldn't be able to park my car in the garage (an insurance requirement). So that basically means they will be left out blocking the footpath all year - great!

Back onto this article - I'm not sure why Wokingham Direct are becoming the main point of contact. Last year this caused chaos such that all other queries were being delayed as well. Better that the contractor handles them so that the rest of the council isn't affected.
Fed up, Lower Earley
28/11/2012 at 14:34 Offensive or Inappropriate?
   We have just moved into Wokingham area from Reading where we had wheely bins. I know there is a large initial outlay but once they are there that is the end of it. Wokingham will be supplying bags for decades. If your delivery is early morning you put the bag out the night before and it is invariably torn to pieces by cats and foxes. The wheely bins are easily accessible and easier for the dustmen and you can use your supermarket bags to put waste in before putting in the bin and so reuse them as well. There was a lot of moaning when Reading introuced wheely bins but they really are an excellent system.
parlovero, Earley
28/11/2012 at 13:16 Offensive or Inappropriate?
   How much money is being wasted employing the green waste refuse driver to cover every road once a week when such a small percentage of people are using the scheme?
Paul Daniels' reattached finger.
28/11/2012 at 12:19 Offensive or Inappropriate?
   I wondered that too, Mavdo, but in fairness that's a fault of the article rather than the council; there's no quote attributed to the council that claims that anyone's welcomed the (proposed) changes.

Returning to my usual Council-hating theme, though - it'd take more than the proposed changes to polish this particular defecation.
Damiano_Tommassi, Wokingham
28/11/2012 at 12:14 Offensive or Inappropriate?
   Just a little question here - "a raft of improvements which have been welcomed by families" - sorry *which* families welcomed this change? Was this another "consultation" that was held on the matter, or is it just an assumption? (although it is ultimately the same thing in our council's case). I know no one that would say the only change needed, or even the most important change, being to make the bags bigger so they fit more bins!

Surely the only people who would welcome this are those who want to throw away more rubbish, and that 80(+10) bags per year is nowhere near enough.
mavdo, Wokingham
28/11/2012 at 11:51 Offensive or Inappropriate?
   Will people who don't use all their bags be given vouchers? I currently have about sixty unused from last year's allocation. The last thing I want is bigger bags. Can I have a smaller one that fits my kitchen bin please and that I will fill before putting it out about once every three weeks.
PoneRana, Wokingham
28/11/2012 at 11:48 Offensive or Inappropriate?
   A 'raft of improvements' !!

Bigger bags - Ok will give you that one. Vouchers to exchange for bags if you don't get yours - so basically I would have to put myself out.

Did I miss any of the other 'raft' of changes?
Friday's child, Reading
28/11/2012 at 10:49 Offensive or Inappropriate?
   'People who don’t receive their 80 bags by April 1, will receive vouchers'

should read

'People who don’t receive their 80 bags because they've been pinched, will receive vouchers'
Paul Daniels' reattached finger.
28/11/2012 at 10:36 Offensive or Inappropriate?
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